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If somebody had told me when I was starting composition in Helsinki in the '70s that I would end up in L.A. and to describe that journey, those 17 years with the philharmonic and building the hall and this and that, I would have said, "This is a fairy tale of the first order."
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There's so much energy exchange in conduction, so you get back a lot, of course, but you also have to give a lot. It's kind of high-energy thing.