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There was a school in Chicago called the School of Design. This was started by Laszló Moholy-Nagy, and it was a wonderful school, but we with Alix MacKenzie didn't go to that school. We did have friends who went to that school and we would visit there often, and I'm sure it pushed me in my painting direction very strongly just by association.
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We asked a lot of questions and we watched everyone who was working in the studio. And we had an opportunity to sit in on discussions, aesthetic discussions at the pottery, which took place generally over tea breaks in the morning and afternoon. So we learned a lot just from being around there with Bernard Leach.
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When you're young, you think you can do anything, and we thought.
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Every pot is not going to be a masterpiece.
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When we finished training with my wife we came to St. Paul, because St. Paul was the first place where we got a job offer and we needed some sort of a job to earn some money in order to set up our own studio. It's rather ironic that this job offer came originally through the Walker Art Center.